Quali le migliori alternative a Neteller/Skrill?

Lately, Paysafe group Plc, the company that owns both Neteller and Skrill, announced that the commissions for those who use these ewallets will be more expensive.

And no one assures us that over time their earnings claims, already high, will not increase and therefore we should look around.

Many casinos have already started applying commissions on deposits/withdrawals with these two ewallets, other casinos have actually removed them from the payment methods.

So shortly between commissions to be paid on deposit, varying between 1% and 3%, possible exchange commissions, 2.99% on the outward journey and 2.99% on the return journey, withdrawal commissions and costs of moving funds from the ewallet to the credit/debit card to the bank account varying from 3 to 7 euros....we will find ourselves paying a fee close to 10% to the Paysafe group.

There is Paypal which is certainly a cheaper method but how many casinos include it among the payment methods?

Then there is Ecopayz but I honestly don't know if subsequently, once they have acquired customers, they will also decide to align themselves on the same commissions.

How are you organizing yourselves? :)

In my opinion, the best payment methods of all are Paypal and Paysafecard precisely because there are no commissions. Another alternative could be postepay. In fact, sometimes when I don't have funds on PayPal I deposit in casinos with this payment method if I have funds on Postepay. As far as withdrawals are concerned, I prefer PayPal and bank transfer and partly Postepay due to the commissions.

Hi leistat28 :)

I was also wrong about the exchange commissions which on skrill/neteller are 3.99% and not 2.99% like on Ecopayz

I've used Paypal a few times and one thing escapes me: is it a real ewallet or is it just a "bridge" (a way to keep the card or bank account details from appearing?)

The thing that pleasantly struck me is that they only take 1 euro when you have to withdraw the funds and put them on the card.

But now I read that if you have to make payments and you don't have a balance on your PayPal account, using the connected card costs 3.4% of the transaction + 0.35 euros.

Obviously this "inconvenience" can be easily remedied by leaving a fixed amount on PayPal and withdrawing only the surplus... if there are any :)

Today, however, I went to review the new costs for withdrawing money from Skrill and they brought the transfer to 5.5 euros (7.50 euros on Neteller) and 7.5% if you withdraw by card.

You read that right...seven point five percent on every move of money from skrill to card, with no maximum.

We are truly at the edge of madness.

As you also say, at this point, it is best to top up your accounts with the paysafecard or at most with the dedicated top-ups that you buy at the tobacconist and withdraw either by card or by bank transfer.

Yes, with Skrill it is not convenient at all and I use it very rarely compared to the ones you mentioned in the last two lines.

As regards Paypal, for withdrawals with amounts lower than 100 you take 1 euro plus 1 from the Italian post office and if you make a payment via card there are those costs but I assume only if you make purchases on eBay, other sites or send the money to family/friends. Several times I have deposited in this way such as on CasinoYES and on some others and they have not taken the commissions but I don't know if this is the case for the others or not.

Hi all gamblers, so I was bitterly screwed 2 years ago for having deposited 2 paysafe cards of 100 in my neteller account, the incredible thing is that there is the deposit option but they don't tell you that it is canceled since I believe Italy as a jurisdiction is not legal so to recover the money from the pay safe card I went completely crazy, having to send photocopies of the paysafecard, phone calls etc etc, in the meantime I had changed residence in short after 7 months I managed to recover them but never again ', I find it shameful that they make you do an operation that is actually not permitted.

Now I haven't used Neteller for 2 years but soon I intend to use it again, in my opinion it is still the fastest and most efficient service for taking the money you win when you manage to cash it out.

Hi everyone

Hi Gerolamo76 :) (welcome)

At the moment, as far as I know, Neteller/Skrill cannot be topped up directly with the 16-digit paysafecard top-up pin but you must have a mypaysafecard account. In short, you have to register on their site, purchase the top-ups and upload the pins to your account so as to be able to make payments.

Unfortunately both Neteller and Skrill require a 7% commission for deposits with mypaysafecard... which in my opinion is a real ROBBERY. :)

However, I am not aware that there are any online gaming sites that include the mypaysafecard among the tools for withdrawing funds.

Dearest casinista932, it's a great pleasure to meet you, I see you are very active in the forum and also very knowledgeable, so thanks for the advice, I opened a paysafe card account but I've never tried to deposit, now I'll try and then I'll let you know maybe a small amount so I don't go crazy trying to get the money back, you know 200 wasn't a lot anyway but 10 euros even if I wait 6 months I don't care, a dear greeting see you soon

Hi dears, I was reading your posts and I see that you are quite knowledgeable, I have used almost all the circuits, I have a Netleer, Sckrill, Paysafe, Paypal, Visa Maestro, direct bank transfer etc etc account. Clearly the faster and more convenient they are if you have noticed they cost more proportionally, it is clear that if I make an instant transfer with my bank they rob me, it is clear that if I deposit on the wallets there are commissions, but the point in my opinion is to understand what type of player he is Yes, you are a person, and the legal security that it all entails, for example if you deposit into your current account with Neteller or Sckrill, then the director will give you a warning, well it's not welcomed, you will be reported for the anti-money laundering laws, now I want to tell you understand what real conditions with pros and cons to look at, the collection speed?? at the expense of safety or reputation?? I don't know if I've explained myself, for me the best thing is to never confuse real bank accounts with these, as reports emerge which can in some cases be paradoxical and counterproductive.

In my opinion the best is neteller for players but to be held with a neteller credit card and not to be mixed with the bank account.

There could potentially be problems if you move a certain amount of money to and from ewallets mainly because they are considered to be overseas accounts.

If I'm not mistaken, we shouldn't exceed 10,000 euros of movements per year... and it doesn't take much to reach them.

Regardless of whether there are winnings or not, the money moved would be considered as "different" income to be reported and therefore taxable at 50%.

For this reason too, and to avoid running into problems, tools such as top-ups, debit and credit cards and bank transfers should be re-evaluated.

The times to receive bank transfers are now very short and therefore the very expensive ewallets, in my opinion, will lose support.