CASINO AMSS e NON MA CI SI PUO? GIOCARE ????

Hi Gamblers, as we all know, for some years now casinos have had to adapt to the AAMS license, but what I don't understand and I would sincerely like to discuss is what happens if you play in casinos with a license to play with Italians but without AAMS license.

I present the example questions here

Will I get a fine???

Is it really illegal??

How come there are stable and serious casinos that accept you even though they are not AAMS??

I honestly don't know how it works but by taking my responsibilities I play a lot better and more in many other non-AAMS.

Hi Gero :)

It is above all a question of taxes.

All the reasons of regularity, legality, protection of public order are a pretext.

All those casinos that do not have an AAMS license and accept people who reside on Italian territory as customers can be fined.

Those players who "handle" sums exceeding 10,000 euros per year while playing at non-AAMS casinos can also be fined.

Movements do not necessarily mean winnings but simple movements of money to and from abroad which would be taxable at 50% as "other income".

However, I am not aware of what you risk if you play for 20 euros on a casino.com...

Just the thought of having to give the state 50% of a millionaire jackpot should keep us away from playing at a non-AAMS casino :D.

I do not deny that there are very serious, very reliable, correct casino.coms... perhaps much more so than the "regularized" ones and therefore I would not criminalize, as is done in other forums, certain entities just because they do not have an AAMS license.

I was wondering instead, but it's just my question, and the answer would certainly not change the situation given that it has now been decided like this, and deep down the question is this.

We have the Internet, so let's say that instead of physically going to LAS VEGAS thanks to this wonderful means, I go there via the network, therefore not physically but virtually.

Now I say if I go there physically and bring my 1000 euros converted into dollars, and I play by the rules of the guest place, I don't understand why if I conveniently go online from home, they allowed such an overbearing law.

I understand if I play in ITALY, it would be logical to pay the taxes based on the legislation that depends on it, but I don't understand this and like all of us I have to accept it by force of circumstances, I find it truly shameful and unfair and know that it only works like this in Italy for example a Frenchwoman, an Englishman, a Greek etc etc, can play in a com without having problems and needless to say that the com casinos are certainly richer, better and bigger than the AAMS

And with that I expressed my point of view

I fully agree with you.

What is the difference between playing on casino.com and purchasing a foreign product on eBay or Amazon?

Italy has imposed a monopoly on gaming by asserting the principle of national sovereignty in the name of protecting public order.

As if in a certain sense it should protect the citizen from dirty and bad foreign casinos! :D

In fact, the state, due to the absurd regulations and high taxes imposed, is instead sending a strong message...the chickens are mine and I'll pluck them!

In no other country do slot machines in physical locations pay so little and is there such heavy taxation, both at source and on winnings, on lotteries and lotteries.

Let's also consider that only online, which constitutes just over 1% of games played, is everything tracked, regulated, known and visible.

Gaming in physical locations, from slot halls to bingo halls etc., is totally free and out of control and is where pathological gamblers are most present and where the nature of the money played cannot be identified.

Is it possible that this aspect has been clear to me, a simple player, for years while those pulling the strings pretend nothing happened?

In fact, Italy is forced to pay a fine every year because it hinders the free movement of goods and services within the European Union.

So if we go by logic, playing at a casino that has acquired a license in an EU state cannot in fact constitute a crime. The taxation situation is different and we should find out about the agreements that exist between our country and the various European states.

well done and congratulations to the legendary troublemaker

EXACTLY, there are many points you expressed above that are at the crux of a much bigger controversy than us, but which you were able to express very well in just a few lines.

I only know that I respect the rules if they are dictated by common sense and the love of logic on healthy and balanced bases and principles.

Otherwise I take my responsibilities, I am and can become a soldier of my principles based on true democracy and freedom of thought etc etc so I play where common sense tells me to do so if AAMS behaves well, better otherwise the world is big It is vast and the freedom to choose is still there for a little while and I want to exploit it to the full, because I foresee not good news coming but rather more and more restrictions.

So Gero I fear that you will never find anything healthy and balanced in the laws of men since most of them do not serve to protect the "many" but to guarantee the privileges of the "few" :)

Even in the rules of online casinos themselves, both foreign ones and AAMS ones, which can be read in the terms and conditions, it is fully understood who has "the upper hand".

There is a long series of abuses that become the rule that perhaps guiltily, and sometimes unconsciously, we are forced to accept in order to participate in the game.

Unfortunately, I know it very well, dear casino player, for goodness' sake there are conditions and situations that are absolutely indisputable, but if I can I'll just say that I try to do my best even if this means breaking the laws, I play where I think it's right for better and for better. bad, the problem is not AAMS itself, but an interest in greater probabilities, if the payout of the AAMS is 89% and not AAMS it is 96% and the state itself is already choking us a lot in every way all with a disastrous disservice in exchange, I wonder why??? I reply I don't care, at least in the game I want my freedom, touch me all but not the game, it's sacred and wherever they put their paws, they get dirty, ruin and deteriorate, nothing but gigantic bullshit, play safe because AAMS, come on . why wasn't it safe before???? and now it is????

In reality, on slots there is not much difference in payout between our casinos and foreign ones.

Perhaps there is only one software provider that is not present in our casinos that offers very high payout levels on its slots and that is Multislot.

The obvious difference is between our scratchcards and foreign scratchcards... with at least a 20% gap on the distribution of the prize money.

but honestly on the pay outs of the slots for example the bar ones dear AAMS eats up 20% which is a scary percentage, so in the cycles the slots pay 70% then 5% goes to the distributor and 5% to the bartender the remaining 20% of proceeds go to the state.

However, in AAMS online casinos the procedure is not that far away, especially the new procedure which increases much more in the game in general but will not leave anyone behind, remember this written post and know that you will not find payouts higher than 90% , since in the turnover the casinos will have to pay many more taxes and in your opinion where do they get them???

Now I will make a separate post on the pay outs of AAMS slots but with the new procedures do not fall for the old style they have to update everything.

Unfortunately it will be like this, I guarantee it but I will explain better and in detail as soon as I have all the data available and declared, which is still not completely defined today but that is the path...

actually UNDERSTAND here I'm already giving you a starting point

Games, in the Government's Maneuver-bis 300 million from games: doubling of tax on online slots and 0.5% increase in the price of machines.

It's called Maneuver -bis and it doubles, sorry I repeat doubles, for online slots, ok online slots I repeat, AAMS online slots cannot keep the payouts the same as they are directly taxed.

You understand that if you tax me the product I have to take the payment out of the product and as you well know there is no escape from AAMS let alone that those crazy people record every single bet of every spin of every AAMS casino.

I knew that the slots in physical locations paid around 74% and that that 26% was divided as follows: 13% to the state and the remaining part, still 13%, divided between the operator of the room and the slot supplier.

Then logically the state applies an additional 50% on the income of the manager and supplier.

What could happen in the future is that the state requires a 6% levy on winnings exceeding 500 euros as already happens for lotteries.

The State earns up to 15%, the supplier and the bartender/manager share the profit at 50% which if I'm wrong is 10% of the total while the players receive 75% of their winnings back. Those who earn the least are certainly the suppliers because, unlike the bartenders/managers, they have to deal with management costs and, among other things, are not covered by any insurance against slot machine thefts.

as far as I know, given that like you I certainly have some friends from the bar or tobacconist, who keep the bar slots. but they said that now the slots no longer reach 75% for the players, but 71% and 70%.

therefore, once the player's income is removed, 30% remains to be divided between the state, the manager and the local area.

I've already taken too many beatings, you have chicken times and fortunately I don't play it anymore

in fact I advise against BAR slots

I recommend online slots 10,000 times